The Wisdom Behind Not Sitting With Innovators


It is reported from Sufyaan Ath-Thawree – Allaah have mercy on him – that he said:

A person who sits with a heretic (an adherent of bid’ah) will not escape one of three things:

(a) either he will become a trial (fitnah) for others,

(b) or some deviation will occur in his heart and he will slip and be cast into the Fire by Allah,

(c) or he will say to himself, ‘By Allah, I don’t care what they say, I am confident about myself,’ but whoever feels secure from Allah about his religion even for the blinking of an eye, Allah will take his religion away from him.

[Ibn Waddâh, Al-Bida’ p125]

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3 Responses to “The Wisdom Behind Not Sitting With Innovators”

  1. Asalamu Alaikum

    If possible can I get some more elaboration on :

    or he will say to himself, ‘By Allah, I don’t care what they say, I am confident about myself,’ but whoever feels secure from Allah about his religion even for the blinking of an eye, Allah will take his religion away from him.

    What exactly does it mean by whoever feels secure from Allah about his religion????

    Jazakallahu khayraa.

    I

    • Wassalaamu ‘alaykum,

      What this means is that a person may think that he is upon sound knowledge and good understanding, so he then proceeds to go and sit with the people of innovation thinking that he will not be affected by their doubts and false arguments. But because of this, he ends up confused in those matters which he was previously certain in.

      So it is best not to sit with innovators nor hear their arguments, as Imaam ahmad was once sitting with his son when an innovator (I believe he was a Jahmee) came and started talking to Imaam Ahmad. Imaam Ahmad then put his fingers in his ears and told his son to do likewise and kept on repeating ‘harder, harder’ (i.e put your fingers in your ears harder so that you don’t hear him speak) such that the innovator got up and left.

      Another story, again from Imaam Ahmad, states that one of his students came to him and said that there is a innovator in such and such town who preaches to the people, but he is very good at softening their hearts and reminding the people of the hereafter.

      So Imaam Ahmad went to his gathering and hid himself (so no one could see him) and started listening to the speech. At the end of the speech, his student came to him and asked what he thought. Imaam Ahmad had tears running down his cheeks yet he was saying to his student, “don’t listen to him, don’t listen to him.”

      So here we see that even if an innovator is a good preacher, it is still advised to steer clear from him and avoid him lest his doubts get into your mind.

      I hope this has answered your question.

      Wassalaamu ‘alaykum.

    • We also have a statement of the Prophet (saw) where he said words to the effect of “O Allaah, do not put me in (complete) control of my affairs even for a blinking of an eye”.

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