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Sitting With The People Of Innovation And Desires

Posted in Biddah / Innovation with tags , , , , , , , on August 1, 2014 by TheAuthenticBase

Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal said:

“Those who we learned from among the people of knowledge, used to despise Kalaam [theological rhetoric] and sitting with the people of deviation.” [Al-Ibaanah, by Ibn Battah, 2/471]

He also said:

“Safety- if Allaah has willed – is in abandoning sitting with them (the people of innovation) to discuss their innovation and misguidance.” [Al-Ibaanah, by Ibn Battah, 2/472]

He also said:

“So fear Allaah! Fear Allaah O Muslims! The good opinion you have of yourself and the knowledge you have that you are on the correct way, should not lead you to risk your Deen by sitting with some of these people of desires,thinking, ‘I will intrude upon them in order to debate with them or to expose their ideas.

However, they are a more severe form of fitnah than the Dajjaal, and their speech clings to a person more strongly than a severe itch,and it can burn the hearts more than a blazing flame can.

And I have seen a group of people who used to curse and revile the people of desires. Then they went and sat with them in order to contest with them and refute them. Then the cheerful, open attitude, the hidden deception and the subtle disbelief continued until they became inclined towards them.”

[Al-Ibaanah of Ibn Battah, 2/470]


Seeking Forgiveness For The Misguided, By Ibn Taymiyyah

Posted in 'Aqeedah, Adab (Manners), Killing The Fitna, Methodology Of The Salaf with tags , , , , , , , on December 18, 2013 by TheAuthenticBase

Ibn Taymiyyah said:

“He (Imaam Ahmad) did not make takfeer of the Murji’ah who say that faith is saying without action, nor did he make takfeer of those who considered ‘Alee more virtuous than ‘Uthmaan, rather the texts are clear from him that he prevented even takfeer of the Kawaarij, the Qadariyyah and others besides them. In fact, he only make takfeer of the Jahmiyyah for their denial of Allaah’s names and attributes, and this is because of their clear and apparent contradiction to what the Messenger (saw) came with, since the reality of their claim amount to denial of the Creator. But he suffered at their hands until he knew their reality very well, seeing that it was founded in ta’teel. Indeed takfeer of the Jahmiyyah is well known from among the Salaf Imaams.

Yet Imaam Ahmad did not make takfeer of the individuals among them, because the one who invites to an idea is worse than the one who simply utters it. And the one who punishes those who oppose such ideas is worse than the one who simply invites to them. And the one who makes takfeer of those who oppose him is worse than the one who punishes them.

So in this light, the people in authority were uttering the ideas of the Jahmiyyah, that the Quraan is created, and that Allaah would not be seen in the hereafter, etc., and they were also inviting people to accept these ideas, and inquisiting them over them, punishing them when they did not accept, and making takfeer of those who rejected them. They would keep the prisoners as captives until they uttered the Jahmiyyah belief that the Quraan was created etc., they would not give anyone a position of authority, nor give anyone any provision from the bayt al-maal unless he had these things.

With all these factors present, Imaam Ahmad, may Allaah have mercy upon him, had mercy with them, he sought forgiveness for them, because he knew that it was not clear to them that they were denying the Messenger (saw), nor that they were rejecting what he came with, but they were rather uttering mistaken interpretations, following those who brought such ideas to them.”

[Majmoo’ Al-Fataawaa, 23/342]

‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee In The Trial Of The Quraan

Posted in 'Aqeedah, Inspirational Stories, Methodology Of The Salaf with tags , , , , , , , on May 25, 2013 by TheAuthenticBase

Ibn ‘Ammaar Al-Mawsilee said in his Taareekh:

” ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee said to me, ‘What prevents you from declaring the Jahmiyyah to be disbelievers?‘ And at the beginning I had not used to declare them to be disbelievers. Then when ‘Alee (Ibn Al-Madeenee) consented to their saying in the trial (concerning the Quraan) I wrote to him reminding him of his saying to me, and I reminded him of Allaah.

Then later a man informed me about him that he had wept when he had read my letter. Then I later saw him and he said to me, ‘There is nothing in my heart of what I said with my tongue, (i.e. in response to the trial concerning the Quraan) and I responded because I feared that I whould be killed, and you are aware f my weakness, which is such that if I had been ashed a single time I would have died.‘ “

Al-Marroodhee said:

I heard a man from the people of the army say to Aboo ‘Abdullaah (Ahmad Ibn Hanbal);

“(‘Alee) Ibn Al-Madeenee sends the greeting of salaam to you.”

So he (Ahmad Ibn Hanbal) remained silent. So I said to Aboo ‘Abdulaah (Ahmad Ibn Hanbal):

” ‘Abbaas Al-‘Anbaree said to me that ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee mentioned a person and spoke against him, so ‘Abbaas Al-‘Anbaree said to ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee, ‘They will not accept your saying, rather they will only accept from Ahmad Ibn Hanbal.‘ So ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee said, ‘Ahmad was able to withstand lashes, whereas I could not withstand it.‘ “

Ibn ‘Ammaar also said, “He (‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee) did not consent out of belief in that, but merely through fear.

Muhammad Ibn ‘Uthmaan said, “I heard ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee say two months before he died, ‘The Quraan is the speech of Allaah, uncreated, and whoever says that it is created is a disbeliever.

Aboo Zur’ah abandoned narrating from ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee due to what occured from him during the trial, but Aboo Haatim used to narrate from him since ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee disassociated himself from what he had done (i.e. under stress). Aboo Haatim said, “ ‘Alee (Ibn Al-Madeenee) was a sign amongst he people with regards to knowledge of hadeeth and hidden defects of transmission (‘ilal).

Adh-Dhahabee said, “Some people report from ‘Abdullaah Ibn Ahmad (Ibn Hanbal) that his father (Imaam Ahmad) withheld from narrating from ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madenee, but I do not see that. Rather ahaadeeth are reported from him in his Musnad, and there are a great number of ahaadeeth from him in Saheeh Bukhaaree.

[Siyaar A’laam An-Nubulaa, 11/41-60]

The Bio Of ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee

Posted in Miscellaneous with tags , , , , , , , , , on May 22, 2013 by TheAuthenticBase

Imaam Bukhaaree said, “I have not held myself to be slight in the presence of anyone, except with ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee.

So who was ‘Alee Ibn A-Madeenee?

His Name:

His full name was (Abul-Hasan) ‘Alee Ibn ‘Abullaah Ibn Ja’far Al-Madeenee. More famously known as ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madenee. He was born in 161H in Basrah and died in Dhul-Qa’dah 234H in Saamarraa.

Those Who He Narrates From:

Those he narrated from include: Sufyaan Ibn ‘Uyaynah, Ibn Wahb, Yahyaa Ibn Sa’eed Al-Qattaan, his own father ‘Abdullaah, as well as numerous more.

Those who narrated from him include: Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, Imaam Al-Bukhaaree, Aboo Haatim, Aboo Daawood, Sufyaan Ibn ‘Uyaynah (his teacher) as well as numerous others.

His Excellence:

Adh-dhahabee said, “He excelled in this field, and compiled and gathered, and surpassed the memorisers in knowledge of hidden defects in transmission (‘ilal), and it is said that he wrote two hundred works.

Aboo Haatim Ar-Raazee said, “Ibn Al-Madeenee was a sign amongst the people in his knowledge of hadeeth and hidden defects in transmission (‘ilal), and Ahmad Ibn Hanbal had not used to call him by his name, but rather use his kunyaa out of respect for him.I have never heard Ahmad use his name.”

Saalih Ibn Muhammad (Jazarah) said, “The most knowledgeable of those I met with regards to hadeeth and their hidden defects in transmission (‘ilal) was ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeene.

Ibn Mahdee said, “ ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee is the most knowledgeable of the people of the hadeeth of Allaah’s Messenger (saw), and of the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Uyahnah (his teacher) in particular.

His Teachers’ Respect For Him:

Khalaf Ibn Al-Waleed Al-Jawhare said, “Ibn Uyahnah (i.e. Ibn Al-Madenee’s teacher) came out to us one day when ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee was with is, so he said, ‘If it were not for the presence of ‘Alee (ibn Al-Madeenee) I would not come out to you.’

Yahyaa Ibn Sa’eed Al-Qattaan (one of his teachers) said, “The people criticise me for sitting to study under ‘Alee (Ibn Al-Madeenee), but I learn from him more than he learns from me.

His Greatness:

Imaam Bukhaaree said, “I have not held myself to be slight in the presence of anyone, except with ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee.

Aboo Yahyaa Muhammad Ibn ‘Abdur-Rahmaan said, “When ‘Alee (Ibn Al-Madeenee) came to Baghdaad, he would be at the head of the gathering.(Yahyaa) Ibn Ma’een, Ahmad Ibn Hanbal and Al-Mu’aytee came, and the people were watching. So if they differed about anything it was ‘Alee (Ibn Al-Madeenee) who spoke.

Yahyaa Ibn Ma’een said, “When ‘Alee Ibn Al-Madeenee came to us he would make the Sunnah apparent.”

‘Alee Ibn A-Madeenee said, “Attaining knowledge of the meaning of the ahaadeeth is half of knowledge, and knowledge of the narrators is half of the knowledge.

[Siyaar A’laam An-Nubulaa, 11/41-60]

A Word On Innovators, By Imaam Ahmad

Posted in Biddah / Innovation with tags , , , , , on April 13, 2013 by TheAuthenticBase

Imaam Ahmad said:

“And let him not be of those who invent new matters [into the Deen], for whenever such a thing emerges from such a man, he seeks to find a proof for what he is doing.

So he induces himself to do the impossible, searching for a proof for what he has brought out – whether valid or baseless – in order to beautify his innovation and his invention. And worse than that, is that he fabricates it – attributing it to some written text that has been conveyed about it. So he desires to beautify that with truth and falsehood.”

[Al-Ibaanah, by Ibn Battah, 2/472]

Speaking Against The People Of Innovation

Posted in Biddah / Innovation with tags , , , , , , , on March 26, 2013 by TheAuthenticBase

Some of the people said to Ahmad bin Hanbal:

“I find it difficult to say about a person that he has such and such problem, and so and so is like such and such.”

Imam Ahmad said:

“If you remain silent and I remain silent when will an ignorant person know the authentic from the unauthentic?!”

[Majmoo Fatawa, 28/231]

Words Of Imaam Ahmad Regarding The People Of Innovation

Posted in Biddah / Innovation with tags , , , , , on May 28, 2012 by TheAuthenticBase

Regarding the people of innovation, Imaam Ahmad said:

“They differ concerning the Book, they are in opposition to the Book, and they all agree with each other in contradicting the Book. They use the unclear and ambiguous texts as proof for their views and they misguide the people because of what they have difficulty understanding.”

[Majmoo’ Ar-Rasaa’il Al-Kubraa, 1/106]